Talk:Group 5 Project - Electron Microsopy
--Katiana Shaw 05:39, 7 May 2010 (UTC) Hey Group 5 - Here are some thoughts:
- The outline of the technique is very easy to understand which is great and the student drawings are fantastic.
- The history could maybe come before the explanation of how the electron microscope works; I personally think it would flow better but I think that's fairly minor.
- I like how you have related applications to UNSW
- Under applications you could maybe include some links to papers or journals which outline how the electron microscope has been used in specific research, just for those who are interested and want to research further.
Overall, it is a great project. Really informative and easy to understand with relevant pictures. Good work!
--z3256682 07:09, 6 May 2010 (UTC) Hi,
Great work, just a few suggestions:
A table or figure outlining the information you've given as "1. has a light source 2. etc.." bit might be better in showing your reader how microscopy has progressed from light to electron, and helps break up the text a bit, but that depends on your planning, so ignore my comment if neccessary.
Also I don't see any student-drawn diagram/figures unless the simplified schematics are student-drawn (which by the way are quite good and look really professional), however if indeed they are student-drawn, you need to make this clear for subsequent reviewers.
A Glossary may be needed, however personally, I understood it comfortably and you explained it well within the text.
Overall really good work especially current/future uses, interesting to report on local UNSW uses, just requires really minor adjustments.
Great work on the project so far! The student pictures are really good, as is the written content and referencing. My critism only is that that history section might fit better before the section on how it all works, but that's just my take. Definately one of the better ones I've read so far :) --z3329502 08:08, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Hey guys, we should probably decide whether were going to cover all types of electron microscopy (EM) or just one (eg. Scanning Electron Micrograph or Reflection Electron Micrograph). I think we should cover all, and im looking for resources on EM tonight.--Dougall Norris 06:30, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Do you think we should cover Transmission Electron Microscopy? I guess we will if we decide to do all types of electron microscopy, which I think might be a good idea. TEM pictures are always being used in the lectures.The Wikipedia entry is . And yes, I think we need to cover history, how it works, uses etc. Maybe also touch on what kind of things EM helped discover? On another note, I draw, so if we need our own diagrams drawn up I can do that. --z3252833 02:50, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
So Mark just said to look at how they work, their history and what they are currently used for. Apparently there are new cryofixation and immunochemical techniques.--z3252833 05:23, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
Yeah for all of the above, mark said its better that we gather research and it will begin to take shape.--z3252261 06:02, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
Thats good. i'm gonna see what sort of research i can find on EM --Emily Wong 06:20, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
Hey all. So for now, do we want to focus on Transmission Electron Microscopy and Scanning Electron Microscopy? They seem to be the major ones. And I suggest we break it down into the major categories we need to address - history, how they work and current/future uses. If you don't mind, can I do how they work? I draw, so I can incorporate diagrams (since we have to draw some of our own diagrams) into that. --z3252833 06:17, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
I don't mind doing history --Emily Wong 06:18, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Yeah for sure, that sounds awesome --Dougall Norris 06:20, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Okay, so we've changed the headings around some more so things make more sense - so at the moment I'm doing what the different microscopes are and how they work, and Emily's offered to do history and the introduction, so Dougall, is it okay if you do current/future uses and the kinds of microscopes at UNSW right now? --z3252833 06:45, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
No worries, if i come across resources that look good for your areas ill post them too --Dougall Norris 06:23, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Emily, what you've done is awesome. I'm sorry it's taking me so long to put up my part; I promise I've got the information, I've just had a stupid crazy time of late. I've finally got time tomorrow so I should have my all my stuff up then, and it will most definitely be done by the weekend. And Dougall, I just looked and you're writing stuff, so yay for you too. --z3252833 04:04, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
Uh, guys, who's doing the introduction? --z3252833 04:08, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
Hey Dougall, for your current and future uses I think there's some new kinds of fixation that have been developed that can help improve the image; I'm not sure but I think it was advances in cryo-fixation. Thought it might help. --z3252833 11:15, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Just so you know guys, I'm drawing the diagrams of the TEM and SEM and I'll have them up on Saturday. And I emailed a guy to get permission to use his information, and he sent me back links to sites where he knows there are science public domain pictures: <http://media.nih.gov/imagebank/index.asp> and here <http://nix.nasa.gov/>. --z3252833 12:44, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Hey, I've found some sites that have public domain images.
<http://phil.cdc.gov/phil/home.asp> this is the CDC website - although a medical website with photos of diseases there are TEM and SEM images.
Hey, really sorry i havent looked at the discussion page for a few days, was caught up in the research. I started doing everything bit by bit in wiki, but it got frustrating, so i did it in word instead and ill upload it with the references all at once. I had a crazy week as well, but im almost finished and i should get it posted tonight or tommorrow. I havent come across the new fixation but ill look into it now, thanks a lot for that. If i have time ill also add to the introduction.--Dougall Norris 05:19, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
No probs Dougall. -z3252833
Still haven't finished tonight, but it will be done tomorrow. Should i also draw something, because i have had some cool diagrams in non-referable articles that would go well with my parts, ill add other images as well when ive finished writing.--Dougall Norris 15:14, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
If you want to draw, go for it. I've drawn schematics of the microscopes, but I'm thinking more drawings wouldn't go amiss. --z3252833 11:25, 27 April 2010 (UTC)