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'''Peer Assessment'''
 
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'''Introduction:'''
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*Good summary of what happens in anaphase is and its significance
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*Could mention what will be discussed on the page
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*A few grammatical errors exist and there some sentences which could be rephrased
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*Image thumb could use a caption. The image itself doesn’t have any of the required info (i.e. referencing, copyright clearance etc.)
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*References are missing
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'''Meiosis vs Mitosis'''
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*All the important points are noted, however, I think that it could be better to write full sentences and maybe more of a description of what is happening in each stage, seems a little “dot-pointy”
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*Diagram comparing meiosis and mitosis would be useful (could be a student drawn image)
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*Referencing is missing
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'''History:'''
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*This section needs more work 
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*There’s quite a big gap between 1879 and 1925, may want to see if there was any significant findings between these dates
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*Citations appear as links to the papers and should be linked and appear on the reference list
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'''Metaphase to Anaphase Transition (MAT):'''
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*Information here is easy to understand but could be structured a little better, sentences are a little short
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*The image of the dividing cells looks to be out of place, is it really necessary? The links in this image are not present and could be added to the end of the history section instead
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*The student diagram is a good addition; however, it could use a more descriptive legend explaining each of the steps shown. It could be moved to accompany the text in the section
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'''Process of Sister Chromatid Separation:'''
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*The information in this section is well summarised
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*Reference missing for the first paragraph?
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*An image of the chromatids separating would useful
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'''Anaphase to Telophase:'''
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*Good use of student drawn image, could be explained a little further in the legend
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*Well summarised info, but I some of it could be expanded a little more
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'''Kinetochores:'''
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*Feel as though the kinetochores subheading isn’t needed again
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*There are some grammatical errors in this section
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*PMID numbers toward the end need to be converted to references
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*Referencing of the image not right and according to the copyright statement, this image might not be able
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'''Chromosomal Motors:'''
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*I feel this section could be expanded a little more, especially the plus-ended subheading
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*Could also include a diagram indicating where these motors are
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'''Molecular Aspect of Anaphase:'''
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*This section has been summarised well and the concepts have been explained well
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*Good use of subheadings
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'''Defects:'''
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*This section contains very interesting info that is well explained and summarised
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*Images are a great accompaniment to the text. Referencing though should be fixed and the second image could be a little bigger
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Current and suggested Research:
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*These sections have been well researched, providing a variety of interesting studies
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Overall, the topic has been well summarised and subheadings used are good. There is good use of student diagrams, but could use a few more images. Some of the sections could be elaborated a little more and grammar should also be looked at. I like the addition of further reading. Some of the citations within the text don’t appear in the reference list, they appear as links to the papers and some references appear twice in the reference list.
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Group 6
 
Group 6
 
Introduction is well written, introduces the amount of time and what occurs, comparison against mitosis and meiosis is nice to have, i always like to see how they differ. History table is a nice colour, may need more text but that's up to the availability of the research. Nicely broken down into sections, and isn't text heavy. I like the pictures, especially the flow charts. All the proteins and cyclins are listed which is good to see and how they have an affect. There's a sentence just under the defects you might want to check out but that section is super well written as is the current research. Glossary done but i think you have an issue with the references in that section. But a really nice simple page thats easy to understand and not overloading.  
 
Introduction is well written, introduces the amount of time and what occurs, comparison against mitosis and meiosis is nice to have, i always like to see how they differ. History table is a nice colour, may need more text but that's up to the availability of the research. Nicely broken down into sections, and isn't text heavy. I like the pictures, especially the flow charts. All the proteins and cyclins are listed which is good to see and how they have an affect. There's a sentence just under the defects you might want to check out but that section is super well written as is the current research. Glossary done but i think you have an issue with the references in that section. But a really nice simple page thats easy to understand and not overloading.  

Revision as of 20:55, 22 May 2013

2013 Projects: Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Group 4 | Group 5 | Group 6 | Group 7

  1. Do not remove this notice {{2013 Project discussion}} from the top of the discussion page.
  2. Newest student comments should be entered at the top of this current page under the subheading "Student Discussion Area" (you cannot edit the sub-heading title).
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  7. Only your own group members should edit this page, unless directed otherwise by the course co-ordinator.

Group Assessment Criteria

  1. The key points relating to the topic that your group allocated are clearly described.
  2. The choice of content, headings and sub-headings, diagrams, tables, graphs show a good understanding of the topic area.
  3. Content is correctly cited and referenced.
  4. The wiki has an element of teaching at a peer level using the student's own innovative diagrams, tables or figures and/or using interesting examples or explanations.
  5. Evidence of significant research relating to basic and applied sciences that goes beyond the formal teaching activities.
  6. Relates the topic and content of the Wiki entry to learning aims of cell biology.
  7. Clearly reflects on editing/feedback from group peers and articulates how the Wiki could be improved (or not) based on peer comments/feedback. Demonstrates an ability to review own work when criticised in an open edited wiki format. Reflects on what was learned from the process of editing a peer's wiki.
  8. Evaluates own performance and that of group peers to give a rounded summary of this wiki process in terms of group effort and achievement.
  9. The content of the wiki should demonstrate to the reader that your group has researched adequately on this topic and covered the key areas necessary to inform your peers in their learning.
  10. Develops and edits the wiki entries in accordance with the above guidelines.

Week 2 Project topic selection, preliminary researching on the topic.

Week 3 By the next practical class (after the mid-session break) there should be sub-headings and content on your actual project page and interactions between individual group members on this discussion page.

Week 4 Each group member should now have selected 4 papers relevant to their section of the project. These, or any other papers, can now be used to generate content (text, images and tables) within the project page. Students can also work on additional sub-headings on the project page.

Week 8 Peer assessment of group project work.

  • Each student will carry out an assessment of all Group projects other than their own.
  • This written assessment should then be pasted on the actual project discussion page and your own individual student page.
  • The peer assessment for each project should be concise and include both positive and negative critical analysis of the current project status.
  • The actual assessment criteria (shown above) can be used if you like.
  • Each student assessment should be your own work and be completed before the next Lab.

Peer Assessment

Introduction:

  • Good summary of what happens in anaphase is and its significance
  • Could mention what will be discussed on the page
  • A few grammatical errors exist and there some sentences which could be rephrased
  • Image thumb could use a caption. The image itself doesn’t have any of the required info (i.e. referencing, copyright clearance etc.)
  • References are missing

Meiosis vs Mitosis

  • All the important points are noted, however, I think that it could be better to write full sentences and maybe more of a description of what is happening in each stage, seems a little “dot-pointy”
  • Diagram comparing meiosis and mitosis would be useful (could be a student drawn image)
  • Referencing is missing

History:

  • This section needs more work
  • There’s quite a big gap between 1879 and 1925, may want to see if there was any significant findings between these dates
  • Citations appear as links to the papers and should be linked and appear on the reference list

Metaphase to Anaphase Transition (MAT):

  • Information here is easy to understand but could be structured a little better, sentences are a little short
  • The image of the dividing cells looks to be out of place, is it really necessary? The links in this image are not present and could be added to the end of the history section instead
  • The student diagram is a good addition; however, it could use a more descriptive legend explaining each of the steps shown. It could be moved to accompany the text in the section

Process of Sister Chromatid Separation:

  • The information in this section is well summarised
  • Reference missing for the first paragraph?
  • An image of the chromatids separating would useful

Anaphase to Telophase:

  • Good use of student drawn image, could be explained a little further in the legend
  • Well summarised info, but I some of it could be expanded a little more

Kinetochores:

  • Feel as though the kinetochores subheading isn’t needed again
  • There are some grammatical errors in this section
  • PMID numbers toward the end need to be converted to references
  • Referencing of the image not right and according to the copyright statement, this image might not be able

Chromosomal Motors:

  • I feel this section could be expanded a little more, especially the plus-ended subheading
  • Could also include a diagram indicating where these motors are

Molecular Aspect of Anaphase:

  • This section has been summarised well and the concepts have been explained well
  • Good use of subheadings

Defects:

  • This section contains very interesting info that is well explained and summarised
  • Images are a great accompaniment to the text. Referencing though should be fixed and the second image could be a little bigger

Current and suggested Research:

  • These sections have been well researched, providing a variety of interesting studies

Overall, the topic has been well summarised and subheadings used are good. There is good use of student diagrams, but could use a few more images. Some of the sections could be elaborated a little more and grammar should also be looked at. I like the addition of further reading. Some of the citations within the text don’t appear in the reference list, they appear as links to the papers and some references appear twice in the reference list.

Group 6 Introduction is well written, introduces the amount of time and what occurs, comparison against mitosis and meiosis is nice to have, i always like to see how they differ. History table is a nice colour, may need more text but that's up to the availability of the research. Nicely broken down into sections, and isn't text heavy. I like the pictures, especially the flow charts. All the proteins and cyclins are listed which is good to see and how they have an affect. There's a sentence just under the defects you might want to check out but that section is super well written as is the current research. Glossary done but i think you have an issue with the references in that section. But a really nice simple page thats easy to understand and not overloading.


Intro image size changed to 300px, you guys think it looks better larger? L.--Z3375878 (talk) 09:46, 17 May 2013 (EST)


_ _N O T O C_ _ (no spaces anywhere) to remove table, delete to make visible again. L. --Z3375878 (talk) 16:23, 16 May 2013 (EST)


References 16/17, 30/31, 47/48 and 49/50 are still duplicates!!! L.Z3375878 (talk) 15:59, 16 May 2013 (EST)


Yup! B--Z3292017 (talk) 15:17, 16 May 2013 (EST)


Hey, should I still upload the spindle section? --Z3371084 (talk) 15:13, 16 May 2013 (EST)


I think its looking good now guys! So after the peer assessment we will aim to finsih it up with lots of pictures to make the page more interesting. I have changed around the structure slightly so that it flows better and have added the introduction! B--Z3292017 (talk) 15:12, 16 May 2013 (EST)


coming along good guys :) make sure everyones respective sections are uploaded before our lab/tute on thursday :)--Z3330795 (talk) 17:01, 14 May 2013 (EST)

Just added a "further reading" subheading, I think it'd be interesting to add links or images etc. with extra information we've come across that might be worthy of mention. What do you guys think? L. --Z3375878 (talk) 01:27, 13 May 2013 (EST)


Yeah I'm good for suggested research, I came across some pretty interesting information that I think would be a waste to delete simply because its a little older

References #22-25 are repeats, I'd fix it if I knew how but I didn't get a chance to ask Mark/see when he did it in the lab so if either of your two remember from your other class then could you please fix it! Thanks in advance, L. --Z3375878 (talk) 21:34, 12 May 2013 (EST)


perhaps "suggested research" as a new heading?

also everyone keep going on your glossary additions, remeber that our target audience isnt medical science students its general public.

possible some hand drawn diagram??

--Z3330795 (talk) 16:03, 12 May 2013 (EST)


Anybody have any interesting ideas on how to jazz up the page a bit and perhaps organize it better? I thought that maybe for suggested research or current research we could give the date and brief summary in a table and then show/hide the rest so that people are able to read more about it if they want but if they dont need to then they won't get confused with the details, any of you embryology guys know if this is possible?

Also anyone come up with any possible new sub headings? I thought I'd divide current research and suggested research since there's quite alot of interesting things in there that I really didn't wanna delete, simply because they were a little old - anyone think it makes it more confusing or anything?

B - could you change the color of the history table please? It may be harder to see black writing on a dark background color

Is everyone good with the Wikipedia anaphase image as our cover image?

Thanks, L. --Z3375878 (talk) 01:41, 11 May 2013 (EST)

Hey everyone! Sorry about not uploading my section - it is saved on my other computer which has temporarily had a fit! In regards to the table L we can create another column where we can add the images -let's discuss today in class! In regards to the image at the top, I have found some but I will ask Mark today if we can put it as a "cover photo" like I did in embryology! B - Z3292017 (talk) 12:51, 9 May 2013 (EST)


Hey guys, how's everyone's sections coming along? B have you looked into the large image for the top? Also no one forget to add the glossary as you go!!! For current research, I've just put some notes/questions on the page if you guys could take a look, or we can just do it Thursday. By an image a paragraph, what should we do if it's a table? Thanks, L. --Z3375878 (talk) 22:41, 8 May 2013 (EST)


Hey i have work tonight but my section will be complete by lab tomorrow, its all in word documents and needs to be transferred across :) --Z3330795 (talk) 17:13, 1 May 2013 (EST)

Hey guys,

As agreed here are our sections - if we do find any articles relating to the other sections we can post the links on the discussion page so that we don't mess up our actual page :)

J - anaphase in mitosis and spindle app

L - defects and current research

Ja - met to an and an to tel, history

B - Anaphase meiosis and sister chromatid etc

Note: I will set up a glossary - so any words that may come across as "new" we can put them down therer (the word in bold and the definition in normal).

ALSO - for every paragraph we write we need AT LEAST 1 picture or graph to represent what we are talking about - we should aim for 50% writing and 50% visual!

Thanks, B --Z3292017 (talk) 15:16, 18 April 2013 (EST)


- Sounds good, we'll talk about it more tomorrow, sorry I haven't had a chance to work on it yet but I'll get right to it soon. Also I think you should delete the info you're putting here and put it on the actual page to prevent confusion

Also to whoever made the Anaphase-Promoting-Complex page, what's gonna happen with that?

--Z3375878 (talk) 17:57, 17 April 2013 (EST)

Articles: PMID: 16982610 - The Anaphase-promoting Complex/Cyclosome Inhibitor Emi2 Is Essential for Meiotic but Not Mitotic Cell Cycles

PMID: 17459880 - Mitotic Phosphorylation of the Anaphase-promoting Complex Inhibitory Subunit Mnd2 Is Necessary for Efficient Progression through Meiosis I


Hi guys,

I'll also do the difference between anaphase in mitosis and meiosis :) Thanks, --Z3292017 (talk) 12:34, 16 April 2013 (EST)


Hi! In regards to the information section, there is a lot to put there so I think you and I should split the work. I'll focus on the sister chromatid separation this week, but we should also get together this Thursday and discuss what else we can put in. In regards to current research, leave that for the time being as we really need to sort out who's doing what so that we all have equal contributions.

See you all Thursday, --Z3292017 (talk) 12:08, 16 April 2013 (EST)


--Z3330795 (talk) 17:56, 11 April 2013 (EST) My four articles were all associated with transisiton from metaphase to anaphase and then from anaphase to telephase.

Article 1, Identifies subtle differences between different species mitotic processes very own APC/C. [1]

Article 2, Identifies APC role in initiating Anaphase. [2]

Article 3, Role of regulatory proteins in coordination of Metaphase to anaphase transition. [3]

Article 4, Proves a way to by pass regular cellular requirements by chemical means. [4]

I have infact started the content contribution with these sub headings in mind & created a simplistic diagram. I will continue to add content to the below:

1.Metaphase to Anaphase transition

2.Anaphase to Telophase

3.Process of sister chromatid separation

I will also start to add to the current research sub heading, however if any one comes across a good current research article dont hesitate to share with me.

If you would like to contact me by other means my email address is , jared_berndt@hotmail.com


--Mark Hill (talk) 10:17, 4 April 2013 (EST) OK guys some action here, we need 4 papers from each of you before the Prac next week and the actual Project page still lacks sub-headings.


- Instead of doing the history, I'll leave that for later and start on the introduction because it might tie the topic in all together and new sub-topics might come up which may be worthy of mention/their own sub-heading. I know we said we'd do this later but it might keep us on track and direct us. --Z3375878 (talk) 16:57, 11 April 2013 (EST)


- Anyone have any ideas on sub-headings? Also are we going to just be talking about Anaphase in humans or can we say use examples of defects from other creatures? --Z3375878 (talk) 07:12, 7 April 2013 (EST)


- I found 2 about the spindle, I'll keep looking for articles about the defects however I haven't yet found anything about the history, anyone had any luck?--Z3375878 (talk) 10:12, 3 April 2013 (EST)

- For this week's lab assessment I'll do the defects--Z3375878 (talk) 09:45, 3 April 2013 (EST)

- I'll do the spindle fibers topic for the next lab assessment--Z3371084 (talk) 16:27, 28 March 2013 (EST)

- I'll do the history topic --Z3375878 (talk) 16:25, 28 March 2013 (EST)

- Point to remember about when we start referencing our text later: DO NOT cite reviews, e.g. don't cite the review if the review mentions the result of the study its reviewing. Cite the ORIGINAL PAPER that actually found the result.

Don't use too much information from textbooks - find stuff out directly from research papers and articles, and get most info/images from these sources. Allowed ONE really good image from Wikipedia.

Start with reviews then move onto research papers.

I suggest we just choose a random topic that we will each cover for the sake of speeding up research progress and for the next lab assessment - we could then change topic if we don't like it --Z3375878 (talk) 16:22, 28 March 2013 (EST)


- Hi guys, I've started to create the page - I think it should be split up with intro, history, then a relatively large section on the whole process (I've put some points down as to how we should perhaps separate it), defects resulting from anaphase, and finally current research. If you guys have any suggestions, please post them here.

Currently I think we should continue to find any research articles in regards to anaphase and perhaps post up some summaries in the appropriate section - then once more information has come through we can decide on who does what task! Thanks! --Z3292017 (talk) 15:51, 28 March 2013 (EST)


- So how are we going to approach this first, just find articles and journals etc. until we get a good idea of what it's all about and maybe we can then do some planning? --Z3375878 (talk) 15:50, 28 March 2013 (EST)


Here are some syndromes related to nondisjunction (fail to separate properly): Down syndrome, Patau syndrome, Edward's syndrome, Klinefelter syndrome, Turner's syndrome--Z3371084 (talk) 17:35, 26 March 2013 (EST)

Articles about Anaphase (Meiosis)--Z3371084 (talk) 17:36, 26 March 2013 (EST) [1] [2] [3] [4]


--Z3292017 (talk) 14:43, 28 March 2013 (EST) (I MOVED THIS INFORMATION TO THE DISCUSSION PAGE INSTEAD OF THE PROJECT PAGE!


- This is our first comment --Z3292017 (talk) 17:01, 21 March 2013 (EST)


  1. <pubmed>23533609</pubmed>
  2. <pubmed>9425344</pubmed>
  3. <pubmed>17334950</pubmed>
  4. <pubmed>22321970</pubmed>