Talk:2009 Group 3 Project

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--David Roberts 09:53, 3 June 2009 (EST)I did the group reflection for the group project. I think its due at 9 today.

--David Roberts 18:32, 2 June 2009 (EST)Thanks Carmen. I've finished writing about Binary fission, so have a read n see what you think. Feel free to add to it or change it. Do you guys know what we have to do for the reflection, is it a group thing or an individual thing, n when do we need to have it finished by?

Carmen Lam 15:54, 2 June 2009 (EST) Okay I've added a few references, and fixed up the intro a little and some of my part an added a reference to Dave's part... Ill rearrage the references in Tom's part and add them in the reference part and cite the references.... and maybe ill try and fit Grace's technique in somewhere? lol

--David Roberts 22:22, 1 June 2009 (EST)Hey guys, I added aome of the binary fission mechanics. Its still a work in progress. Feel free to add anything if you want.

--David Roberts 21:18, 1 June 2009 (EST)They made a good point about the binary fission not being in the mechanics. I'll try to add something about Binary fission to the mechanics. Other than that, I think its pretty good.

Carmen Lam 18:13, 31 May 2009 (EST) so with the project... what should we change and keep the same? any ideas?

Group Review

B. The page looks lack of explanation.

A)

  • Images: on the whole, use of images sufficiently demonstrates the processes communicated. However, image: “The process of cytokinesis” does not effectively communicate any specifics of the concept of cytokinesis (no labelling etc) an alternated image should be used.
  • Referencing: Only one peer-reviewed material used. Many sections, seem very similar to lecture material and sparsely referenced. In the Current Research on Cell Division add the references to the reference section.
  • Structure: over all structure is well presented. The Comparing Mitosis and Meiosis

Images would maybe look better resized. The sections clearly show individual work, go over and structure all the in one format (eg. references). In the mitosis section, bring up the points so that it doesn’t seem unrelated.

  • Glossary: some terms in the glossary should have been explained in the texted.

C. The flow of information is good however, it seems as though the information from individual group members is not integrated. For example, Binary fission, mitosis and meiosis are specified as the 3 types of cell division but there is no explanation of binary fission in the mechanisms of cell division part. Not sure if that was intended. Good use of images, however, you still require a hand drawn diagram. Whilst you have included links to your individual projects, it would nice to incorporate them in to your project itself. This would highlight the relevance of each of your chosen proteins/mechanisms to Cell Division. We suggest also that you have a consistent style of referencing just so that it looks neater (some require links). Overall, we really liked your project and the structure made it an easy read. We like how you chose only the relevant information to give readers a good overview of your Cell division. Well done. Group 8


Carmen Lam 09:01, 28 May 2009 (EST) Hey guys i've tried to fix up the referencing.... but i dont quite get Tom's references... kinda confusing?

--David Roberts 19:43, 27 May 2009 (EST)I've done a quick proof read through the assignment. Its looking pretty good. I can't think of any other suggestions on stuff we can do.

Carmen Lam 18:56, 27 May 2009 (EST) haha yea it was hard but really good work grace! on finding the images! is there anything else? should we add anymore in the glossary?

--David Roberts 10:39, 27 May 2009 (EST)The pictures are really good. I was trying to find some pictures last night, but failed miserably. couldn't find any that were relevant and didn't have really strict copyright protection.

--Grace Lui 23:21, 26 May 2009 (EST)i found some images for mitosis, loaded them up =)

Carmen Lam 15:38, 26 May 2009 (EST) What else should we be adding? its really hard looking for images... im struggling....

--David Roberts 16:45, 24 May 2009 (EST)Do you guys think we should add links to our individual assignment pages. Ill add them now, they are easy enough to delete if we don't want them.

--David Roberts 11:37, 14 May 2009 (EST)Yeah, sounds good. you can change whatever you want.

Carmen Lam Hey Dave can i move your "errors in cell divsion section" and put it in teh end? i was just looking at group 1s and the layout of their page is similar to mark's, ie, diseases at the end?

--Grace Lui 20:51, 12 May 2009 (EST)Hi guys, just thought I'd rearrange the layout a bit cos it seemed kinda confusing with all the points in the same level... also, Tom and I were saying last week how our split of topics is turning out quite uneven, some parts aren't as significant in relation to the whole topic, like the history part.. so Carmen and Dave, let me know if I can do anything else? I'm happy to draw up some diagrams if no one has already done so =)

--Thomas Fox 22:05, 5 May 2009 (EST) If you look at our page Carmen, you'll notice i've already started making up a glossary. I don't think one person should have 2 create the whole thing, everyone should add words that they think are not known to a commoner, especially when we are all doing different parts, and certain people knowing a greater/better understanding of certain terms used by them.

Carmen Lam 10:20, 5 May 2009 (EST)Found a few images, think i'll finally upload them later on tonight when i stay back... um, and if you tom ge you part finished maybe ill work on a flow diagram or sometihn liek that... or any other ideas as to what our hand drawn image should be? oh! and definition? ro glossary? whos gona do that ?

Carmen Lam 12:20, 30 April 2009 (EST) hey dave just thoguht you should check this out... Meiosis: separase strikes twice

Marie-Emilie Terret, Prasad V. Jallepalli

Nature Cell Biology 8, 910-911 (31 August 2006) doi:10.1038/ncb0906-910 News and Views , search that in nature? i think it was... jsut go tot he reference page and search that.


--Thomas Fox 13:39, 26 April 2009 (EST)Carmen , the wild type was genotype B and genotype A was Tm4. Oi were we suppose to hand that sheet in, cause i forgot 2 hand itin, whoops

Carmen Lam 17:49, 25 April 2009 (EST) Hey, can anyone one tel me which letter was the wildtype and which one is hte control for hte lab? thanks!!

Carmen Lam 19:50, 22 April 2009 (EST) Oh okay, because, well i try googling it.. and nothing substantial ever pops up... its always got to do with cel cycle instead and then yeah that just ruins my plan...how far along are you with your individual project anyway?

--David Roberts 19:29, 22 April 2009 (EST)Hey Carmen, I found em when I was doing my research for the group project. I was tossing up between seperase and Cohesin, cohesin holds the chromatids together when they are replicating. there are probably a few proteins on the motors of the mitotic spindle or the microfilaments that cut the cell in half to make 2. I guess thats still part of cell division.

Carmen Lam 18:49, 22 April 2009 (EST)DAVEE im stuck! how did you find your proteins... i haven't found on yet...and its progressively getting closer to the due date...lol

Carmen Lam 06:27, 21 April 2009 (EST) sorry have been a little slack with posting and researching for hte topic.... just really been busy with work and other uni things.. but ill be stuck at uni for like 6 hours(not including class hours) so ill get some work done then.as for references.... i ahve them on a document on my laptop that i am compiling for my research... so ill post everything up when its all polished or close to...

--David Roberts 18:33, 17 April 2009 (EST)Don't worry, its not. I asked Mark. Its due week 10

--Grace Lui 11:20, 17 April 2009 (EST) reference for the historical timeline is http://www.nature.com/celldivision/milestones/index.html. Will reference it properly soon. I hope the individual assignment is not due Monday...

--David Roberts 21:16, 15 April 2009 (EST)Hey, does anyone know when the indvidual assignment is due? its not next Monday is it?

--David Roberts 22:23, 13 April 2009 (EST)Hey guys, I've chosen my protein for the individual part. I'm gonna do Separase. its the protein that seperates the chromatids after replication.

--Mark Hill 23:57, 12 April 2009 (EST) Your group is working well on the discussion side. You need to be collecting key references and sources to illustrate your topic.

--David Roberts 13:37, 12 April 2009 (EST)I've added the mechanics of cell division, but it is still a work in progress.

--David Roberts 20:13, 8 April 2009 (EST) I found this real time video of cell mitosis. Could be good for the assignment. Mitosis 8/4/09

--David Roberts 21:22, 7 April 2009 (EST)I've started looking for some journal articles. I'm planning to do it over the next week.

--Thomas Fox 22:14, 6 April 2009 (EST) Hey Guys, how is everyone coping with their topics?

--Thomas Fox 11:38, 2 April 2009 (EST)Fine i'll cover current research in cell division then

--Mark Hill 22:51, 31 March 2009 (EST)I like the way your group is using the online Talk page to organise your project. You should think about adding your comments at the top of the page, so the newest comments appear first and the older conversations appear lower on the page. I know it seems the wrong way to read (up instead of down) but it also means that that the most current issue is right at the top of the page and the first to be read.

--Grace Lui 20:57, 31 March 2009 (EST) yea it seems some of the groups have started writing already.. i'll pick the timeline/history of cell division research if that's ok with everyone..

15:10, 31 March 2009 (EST) So... have we all decided on a section? When is a draft of everything due anyway? I think it's best that we get a draft up soon... because hte later we leave things the harder its going to be, with assessments from other courses coming up...

--David Roberts 12:34, 31 March 2009 (EST) overlapping a bit will make sure everything is covered pretty well. We'll have more info, n thats almost always a good thing, as long as the material isn't too deep in 2 different sections.

--Grace Lui 11:53, 31 March 2009 (EST) yea the topics might overlap a bit. and i think i'll be doing my individual project on a method for investigation cell division.

--Thomas Fox 10:47, 31 March 2009 (EST)hey guys, yeh i think splitting up the project into topics and word limits is a good idea too! if i was to choose types of cells division, isnt that sort of covered in mechanisms?

--David Roberts 19:23, 26 March 2009 (EST) I kinda wanna do the Dynamics and mechanics of cell division if no-one minds.

I reckon we should break the word limit into 400 words each. unless one of the areas needs a bigger wordcount.

Carmen Lam 15:53, 26 March 2009 (EST) Hey guys, i THINK ive found my protein.... not sure yet. But, for now its going to be ARF!

Carmen Lam 15:31, 26 March 2009 (EST)Hey all, sorry about my delay in replying to the discussion... So i suppose its decided then? That hte workload is going to be divided in the way that Grace suggested? So.... do we just call dibbs

on which aspect? lol or is it going to be a random selection thing? Because if we get to call dibbs on which section... I wouldn't mind researching hte the types or the history...?

Also, just wondering... is te word limit going to be divided evenly? so like 1500/4 per person?

I'll post again when i find my individual topic! so I'll keep you guys updated!

Thomas Fox 12:08, 26 March 2009 (EST)I think that's a great way of sharing the work load Grace. See you all in lab soon, we'll talk more then. --Thomas Fox 12:09, 26 March 2009 (EST)yewwwwwww

--David Roberts 12:09, 26 March 2009 (EST) That sounds like a pretty good way to break it all up Grace. I was looking for a few journal articles the other day for the cell division, and there looked to be a fair few proteins being used in the process, so that helps a bit. I'll keep looking for more info.

--User Z3187492|Grace Lui 12:12, 21 March 2009 (EST) hey guys, soo.. was thinking, possible way to split up our topic can be..

  1. types of cell division [im not sure, but types like amitosis, meiosis, mitosis and binary fission; are they different types? are they related to our topic? see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_division]
  2. dynamics/ mechanism of cell division
  3. timeline of topic, when/how it was discovered etc.
  4. current research in this area [as suggested by lecturer]

Just some suggestions, what do you think? I'm not very familiar with this topic, still researching it, so if you guys have better/clearer ideas that'll be great =D